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Paul Trusten, R.Ph., '73

posted 11/05/08 @ 11:33 AM EST

The above article looks as if it was written under the influence of some soporific drug, and the subjects of the article seem to have been speaking under the same influence. I believe that when I, a Jewish Brandeis alumnus, voted for John McCain, I was quite sober.

Do you really believe that preferring Obama over McCain is "just as good" for Israel? I wonder--how much confidence are you placing in liberalism in order to take this gamble?

Throughout my life, I have placed my confidence in the wisdom of the American people. I want to believe that the Obama vote is one of common sense. However, since I detect that the U.S. has lost much what I consider to be its "good social order"---a sense of decorum, respect for institutions,common civility, and love of children (what kind of society tolerates the disposal of children at hospital emergency rooms?)---I cannot hold as much confidence in the traditionally presumed sagacity of the electorate. Yet, I will hold my peace, and pray for President Obama to prove me wrong.

I certainly pray that he does prove me wrong, especially regarding Israel. I hope I am wrong about his connection with the likes of Louis Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright, who seem to be no good friends of the Jewish people or Israel. I also pray that, because of its lockstep liberalism, American Jewry has not appointed itself its own Judas goat, and, through the mass hypnosis of the Obama campaign, has not become complicit in opening a path to Israel's destruction.

If the new president does well by our country and by Israel, nobody will be more pleased than I will be to admit a gross error in judgement. But, right now, on the morning of November 5, 2008, I'm singing the old Led Zeppelin line, "It makes you wonder."

Ian

posted 11/05/08 @ 11:43 AM EST

American Jews have lost any sense of allegiance to their people and have put Israel into a very dangerous position, electing someone openly described as the "stealth candidate" by hiding his beliefs, philosophy or positions. To vote for someone based on negative reasons, not liking someone else is to abandon responsibility to the winds of change. You would think that Jews, who suffered the holocaust, would be more careful about riding the public sentiment based on anger and disillusionment, voting someone without joy in his heart or even love, a totally political animal. Nothing he has said or done indicates that he cares about anyone other than himself and isn't that what we suffered from the last eight years and longer? Who says Obama will be a good president or is even qualified. It is the ultimate form of moral relativism to elect someone out of an antipathy to the other side. It is a form of moral and willful blindness and the reason to be a Jew is to never falter in the difficulty of taking moral positions that aren't comfortable. Enjoy the ride to oblivion, because that is where Obama will lead to.

George Patsourakos

posted 11/05/08 @ 2:14 PM EST

George Patsourakos
About 75 percent of American Jews typically vote for a Democrat for President of the United States -- rather than a Republican -- because American Jews tend to be liberal. This is the reason Sen. Obama received more than two-thirds of Jewish votes, not because he is a staunch supporter of Israel. In fact, I really believe that Sen. McCain would have been a stronger supporter of Israel, since Sen. Obama said he is willing to meet with Palestinian tyrants. But let's not fool ourselves; most American Jews did not vote for Sen. Obama because of his support of Israel. They voted for Sen. Obama because they believed he would be the better candidate to get America back on track from its "derailment"
of the past eight years. Moreover, both Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain would support Israel -- rather than any Palestinian country -- in any Middle East crisis. All American Presidents have supported Israel -- our staunchest ally in the Middle East -- since Israel became an independent nation in 1948. The bottom line: American Jews will primarily vote for a candidate for President who will be best for the American people, since it is a foregone conclusion that our President will support Israel in any crisis it might encounter!

Paul Trusten, R.Ph., '73

posted 11/06/08 @ 12:35 PM EST

a foregone conclusion...until now. My point, above, is that with a President Obama, that assumed support is considerably lessened. Let's write an Israeli SAT question, and I'll provice the answer. Obama is to ostensible support for Israel in 2009 as Reinhard Heydrich was to the European Jews in 1942 when he announced a safe "settlement in the East."

American Jews of the 2000s need to stop behaving like the European Jews of 1933 and start behaving like the Israeli Jews of 1967!

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George Patsourakos

George Patsourakos
About 75 percent of American Jews typically vote for a Democrat for President of the United States -- rather than a Republican -- because American Jews tend to be liberal. This is the reason Sen. Obama received more than two-thirds of Jewish votes, not because he is a staunch supporter of Israel. In fact, I really believe that Sen. McCain would have been a stronger supporter of Israel, since Sen. Obama said he is willing to meet with Palestinian tyrants. But let's not fool ourselves; most American Jews did not vote for Sen. Obama because of his support of Israel. They voted for Sen. Obama because they believed he would be the better candidate to get America back on track from its "derailment"
of the past eight years. Moreover, both Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain would support Israel -- rather than any Palestinian country -- in any Middle East crisis. All American Presidents have supported Israel -- our staunchest ally in the Middle East -- since Israel became an independent nation in 1948. The bottom line: American Jews will primarily vote for a candidate for President who will be best for the American people, since it is a foregone conclusion that our President will support Israel in any crisis it might encounter!

Class of 08

posted 11/10/08 @ 9:57 PM EST

Paul - a small point, but "what kind of society tolerates the disposal of children at hospital emergency rooms?"

One that prefers dropping children off at emergency rooms or fire stations as opposed to garbage cans or dumpsters.
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